If you are a woman and a feminist who dares to express an opinion, especially that women are neither liars en masse nor greedy whores, and even more so that rape is the act of and responsibility of rapists, you tend to get two broad classes of trolls, which themselves break down into subclasses: the polite ones and the ones who hate women, whether or not they think it' s a joke to hate women. They both hate women, obviously, but the one group thinks if they're polite it doesn't count. Polite woman-haters believe that women have sex with men and 'then change their minds later', falsely charge rape for funsies, or do any number of things which---much like the rapist in the alley fantasy---make no sense at all. Yet people cling to these things, and don't fight them. In fact, they fight women like me, who in turn want to point out that if you think women have to be vigilant at all times, then you're painting a picture of a world where rapists are so common that any distinction between men and rapists is effectively useless, and that's your argument, not mine. Don't blame me if you didn't think it through.
Here's some of the trolls for this week, from my blog.
You probably think I'm a 13 year old future rapist. But you are wrong. I am actually 100 years old and I have never raped anyone in my life even though I have thousands of hours of fake rape porn that I jack off to every second of every minute of every hour of every day of my existence. And also I keep a bunch of wymyn chained in my basement, but unfortunately for you it's all consentual and they tell me how consentual it is every time I go fuck them by screaming YES YES YES so go fuck yourself you repulsive hambeast.
There are adult men who talk this way, by the way. They think it's witty. They think it's witty because they believe---much like racist whites believe of black people----that justice has gone too far, the tables have turned, etc., etc., etc.,--and those who were on the bottom are now on top, wreaking their revenge. They want to believe this, they have to believe this, because as a society we've at least come far enough to realize that this kind of language is kicking someone when they're down, and that anybody who does that is a bully and a coward. Thus, the jarring phenomenons one sees on a cruise around the web: white guys who complain that black people get their pick of jobs first, men who complain that women rule the world, (where's my check?!), and so on. Like a festering wound, this hostility bursts forth, and yet a slow boil is more common, in the way that groups of disparate men unite to agree on stereotypes of women: women lie about rape. Women are foolish, stupid, get themselves raped. And so on. And forever.
Another winner:
You really ought to shave your vagina once in a while you repressed bitchcase. I think that your swastika shaped pubic hair is sentient and eats people who get too close. The pain of being unable to get laid has caused you to behave this way, i.e. like a fascist cunt on PCP.
I hate you and your whole movement. You will fall to the power of dongs and testicles, you old tank shaped piece of shit.
Another one:
I like how the word ASSHOLES is the most common by far of all your tags.
You are a cowardly cunting cow. You are probably fat too. All feminists are fat and ugly like you. You would crush a man's testicles if he looked at you the wrong way. I hope your tits get punctured by darts one winter night at the lesbian bar and they deflate like the saggy air bags they probably are.
Another one:
Continuing from before... I think you might take this as an attack on feminism in general, so let me clear the air. Yes, it is an attack on feminism. I hate you stupid cows. Although I am not a rapist. That's just sick. Gawd.
You are probably just angry because of how ugly you are. No man will touch you because you look like Rosie O'Donnell squared. You fat bulldyke. I like that word. Bulldyke. Bulldyke. Bulldyke.
You and all wymyn should be put in concentration camps. You disgust me with your obese bodies and unkempt appearances. Sick fucks! Take a shower once in a while you swine.
Another one:
In fact why don't I offer an apology for NOT being a rapist, because I do not fit your mold of everyone with a penis being a rapist. I'm sorry for not sticking my dick in women (i mean wymyn) against their will. I'm so so so so sorry for not perpetuating your insanity. It's like you were schizophrenic and I gave you haloperidol. My bad.
I think that you will probably delete all of my comments without a second thought. This just proves that you are a coward in addition to being unattractive and stupid. I think that you should apologize to every rapist in America just because it would make you uncomfortable and that would be hilarious.
If I were the gambling sort, which I am, I would wager that you shave your pubic hair into a the shape of a swastika.
The accusation that feminists think 'everyone with a penis is a rapist' is rather rich when you consider two things:
1. The men that argue that women are such casual, constant and believed liars:
2. The arguments that many men make which convoy a very vivid picture of a world in which men raping women is so common that it cannot be fought but must be endured and avoided as a part of life.
And if rape is so common, indeed, that no woman can venture forth from home without at least a squadron of soldiers and bazookas, then why on earth would a woman need to lie? What are the odds that she'd be the one woman in the world who was not raped by one of the many rapists that populate this odd fantasy world? And why is this fantasy---where women are in danger at all times----so very popular, when it's designed to keep women in fear?
Another troll:
Also I like how you screen everything to remove all the comments you don't agree with. I think you should get a few dicks in the ass just for that you fat bulldyke.
The plight of women is that you are stupid cuntrags.
Another one:
I think that it's your fault people get raped. If we didn't have femnazis then all the women (wymyn, sry) would be in the kitchens and not out on the streets.
Stupid bitches, always thinking with your vaginas.
These guys are at least honest. They hate women as a group, but they're honest about it.They don't try and cover it up by using the infamous, "I'm just asking you an honest question." You know what else is dishonest? When I had only just that moment explained why that very question is hateful, and somebody uses it anyway. Or maybe it's because they didn't even bother reading it, because they have one speed with women: Tell me how I can get away with this. Let me tell you how women are lying bitches. But they think they're safe if they don't use words like 'lying bitches'. There's a tacit agreement to ignore the sexist insults, as long as they avoid the most obvious gendered slurs. The trolls don't even try that. You know where you stand with them.
Another bad sign is: "I'm a real feminist, feminist, feminist, feminist, feminist, that's me, I'm a great feminist, but....let me tell you about how women get together at those lesbian lumberjack plaid cat-worshipping, do-it-yourself-castration parties and plot to make up false accusations of rape. And other stuff." If you're feminist, it shows. For one thing, you don't go around arguing that walking around female is just like walking about waving a Rolex around, except if somebody steals your Rolex, they don't get to keep it, a woman isn't an object, and the thief doesn't get let off on account of you were stupid and asked to be robbed. For another thing, feminism requires muscle: if you don't use it, it atrophies, if it ever was there to begin with.
You are a worthless fucking filthy shit-eating cunt who sucks dog balls for breakfast and then goes looking for someone else's vomit for lunch.
This is what a guy says when you ban one of his buddies---all of whom share a particular political persuasion------and he gets angry.
And,
Eat shit, you fucking cunt. Iraqis could have raped your lying bitch ass up, down, and sideways for all I care, but I wouldn't even ask them for the film footage because a whore as repulsive as yourself would only be of sex value as a slash film, which clearly they never bothered to make. Since your life is of more value to them as an American traitor than it is as as a rotten corpse. (Wait, I just now realized that they got both. You stink of societal decay.)
REDACTED because 'one of his friends' gave him my real name, which in turn came from a service member who I'd encountered briefly in Iraq, as a senior NCO'. An officer and a gentleman, of course, by Republican standards.
you can kiss my filthy white capitalist ass, you dog-munging fuckwhore. Eat shit and die.
(PS - I'd be honored to be banned by you. All the best people seem to be on that list. Thanks!)
This is an adult man, in a group of adult men, some of whom have security clearances, all of whom are proud of themselves for this kind of thing.
The more foul diatribes tend to correlate roughly with more conservative beliefs, but not always: one thing that unites groups of men across all lines is the belief that women lie about rape, and that believing this does not say bad things about them. Furthermore, pointing this out is the act of, well.....you can see above.
Deborah Tannen, Paula Caplan, and Carole Tavris have spent years studying and documenting how people think they're treating women equally---when videotape and conversation prove them wrong. The stuff you're looking at up there? From "But women DO lie about rape, they do, they do!" ------to "you cocksucking cunt" is just distance on the same spectrum. It's just a matter of degree, and the funny thing is that the final piece of the puzzle is how, if you're a woman, you're considered not fit to discuss it or judge it. Women, you know. We're so emotional. So uncivil. Maybe it's that time of the month?